Friday, September 28, 2007

The Illusion Of Suffering Part 3 (Thich Quang Duc)



On June 11, 1963, Thich Quang Duc, a Buddhist monk from Vietnam, burned himself to death at a busy intersection in Saigon as a protest against repressive policies of the Catholic Diem regime. Buddhist monks asked the regime to lift its ban on flying the traditional Buddhist flag, to grant Buddhism the same rights as Catholicism, to stop detaining Buddhists and to give Buddhist monks and nuns the right to practice and spread their religion.

While burning, the monk Thich Quang Duc showed no signs of discomfort, pain or fear. He was at peace. It is said he was not under the influence of any drug at the time.

Assuming that this incident happened exactly as is reported...it points to something.

It points to the illusion of suffering. In my view.

So the question arises...HOW he could self immolate without feeling pain and discomfort and fear.

The answer could be that he had seen through the illusion of pain, fear, suffering and all such emotions. He had realised that such emotions cannot be real.

So what is the evidence that this HYPOTHESIS (that pain and suffering are an illusion) has some substance to it?

There can be no undebatable evidence really. Only pointers.

Many spiritual teachers say we humans are going through the 'dream of suffering'. Plenty of them say it. Not just one or two.

Our experience with sleep proves that only when the dream is over does one realise that it was all a dream, and never happened. We were just THINKING that it was happening. (If we think something is happening, it does not mean it is happening, of course.)

This...to me...is a very strong pointer.

But the strongest pointer is that mystics have been talking about the 'dream of suffering' for thousands of years.
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The fleeting nature of this life is self evident. The audio-visual quality of memories of what happened just 10 minutes back are no different from the audio-visual quality of memories of what happened 10 years back.

CONCLUSION:

The audio visual quality of memories of what happened 10 minutes back, logically speaking, should be stronger than the audio-visual quality of memories of what happened 10 years back....but is it?

This question opens one's mind to a huge number of questions. One answer forms, then another one forms, the mind dances.....but this question is worth remembering, from time to time.

Just the mere consideration of this question, and WATCHING mental-emotional reactions as this question is considered is a good way of seeing how one's perspective towards this question evolves.

As one's perspective towards this question evolves, a certain amount of detachment from life occurs. Which is always a good thing.

2 comments:

paisley said...

personally i know it to be possible to black out feeling things while they are in the process of happening... i do not in any way believe i could withstand self incineration with out moving a muscle,, but when the mind understands the only way to bring itself thru something is to deafen the senses,, it is done.. often times without conscious decision....

Vikram Madan said...

Hi Jodi,

Yes, when the senses are deafened, no pain is felt.

But what I am writing about in this blog entry is not about deafening the senses.

It is about a person's awareness expanding to a point where the person realises that pain, sorrow, and suffering are not real, but total illusions.

One wonders why should suffering, sorrow, pain etc. be illusions?

Its because pain, sorrow, suffering are anti-life emotions. They hurt life. And pure life cant be anti-life. That is a condradiction.

Mystics have been saying 'suffering is an illusion' for thousands of years.

Mystics have been talking about 'awakening from the dream of suffering' for thousands of years.

There is a long list of mystics who say EXACTLY the same thing....'suffering is an illusion'.

When I say 'mystics' I do not mean Indian mystics or chinese etc.

Mysticism is a term that applies to all people who look upon life as an experience that should be discovered, without searching for, and clinging to fixed answers.

Mystics do not cling to any answers, but there are some things all mystics who have evolved beyond a certain point, agree on....that suffering, pain, sorrow, fear etc. are total illusions.

I am not saying I am above suffering. All I am saying is that I am considering this statement--'suffering is an illusion' very very seriously.

I plan to write more on this topic, 'the illusion of suffering', in my forthcoming posts.

regards,
Vikram